1080i Discussion thread

[mkiker2089]

Like has been said before, it's not upscaling. Upscaling 720 to 1080 is one matter but you'd have 1080p. To get 1080i you basically have to create alternate 540p signals.

[dahauss]

Looks like the BOX only does 720p? my TV is 1080I but it says 720P when I run the box through it on HDMI

[KennyJ]

Looks like the BOX only does 720p? my TV is 1080I but it says 720P when I run the box through it on HDMI

Netflix and Amazon only offer 720p.

[dahauss]

I used PLAYON and a segate BOX that supported 1080I .. the nexflix streams were NOT HD .. not 720P not 1080I .. they were the SD streams... they were also not surround sound.. the ROKU supports 720P (which looks really good for internet video)...

I switched to the ROKU because besides netflix, there are other channels that have HD and the PLAYON device / server would not display any HD.
Also the ROKU seems to do better with WIRELESS then the playon server and segate box...

[dahauss]

Looks like the BOX only does 720p? my TV is 1080I but it says 720P when I run the box through it on HDMI

Netflix and Amazon only offer 720p.

I figured that but it looks really good!! now if the box would work in 1080I .. I wonder what the other HD streams I play are from BLOGS and other channels I have........

[nealm432]

I like the roku to, and I did also recently purchurse an HDTV and surprisgly it can do 1080I which I never realized it could do. But the thing is 720p is just fine for video streaming, becasue you people need to realize one thing one very
important thing that you are all missing.

Streaming 1080I takes a lot of bandwidth and even if ROKU could enable this, it is completly up to the internet service provider! You must have a good chunck of bandwidth to stream 1080I like me I am the very first one to have DOCIS 3.0 which means I can do 30MPS which is enough to stream 1080i. So since alot of you are complaining and whinning to ROKU about not having 1080I, i would think that a lot of you would realize what kind of internet connection you all over to stream stuff from Netflix. DO you all have DSL(hardly enough bandwidth there) or Verizon's FISO? Or even Satallite internet? Reading thru these forums on this topic shows how uneducated alot of you are about this and thinking that if ROKU offers 1080I, I can get 1080I(WRONG). So think about what i said and realize it is not up to ROku or the TV set for that matter, geez it is up to the ISP they determine if you get 108OI or not. ANd quite frankly 720p is just fine for now until ISP's in this country catches up and removes the limits of how much data can be downloaded. Comcast is 250GB, TIme warrner is more resterictive (as I read).
So don't whine to ROKU about getting 1080I! Some onf you won't even get 1080I even though you have a great 2GRAND TV! THe bottom line ISP ISP is in control.

[vmps]

I like the roku to, and I did also recently purchurse an HDTV and surprisgly it can do 1080I which I never realized it could do. But the thing is 720p is just fine for video streaming, becasue you people need to realize one thing one very
important thing that you are all missing.

Streaming 1080I takes a lot of bandwidth and even if ROKU could enable this, it is completly up to the internet service provider! You must have a good chunck of bandwidth to stream 1080I like me I am the very first one to have DOCIS 3.0 which means I can do 30MPS which is enough to stream 1080i.

You seem to be missing the fact that 1080i doesn't take all that much more than 720p (about 30%) which means that the HD stream would be somewhere around 4-5Mbps rather than 3Mbps. (My guess is that you're looking at MPEG2 broadcast numbers for 1080i rather than numbers for the VC1 netflix uses; note that 720p in the broadcast case requires about 14Mbps--much more than than the 3Mbps or so required for netflix HD.) So 1080i is a bit bigger, but not not all that much more on the client side. It'll be a while before you see it from providers mostly because they don't think that there's enough demand to increase the bill by 30% on their end. Also, netflix has indicated that they'd like to eventually do 1080p60, which would be more like 6-10Mbps--still doable on many entry-level ISP packages.

[Redbullsnation]

wow, 10,000 posts and 1080i is too much 2 ask

[Crow550]

What about VUDU on the Roku box?

[wonderbird]

After reading this thread I'm glad that I didn't buy a HDTV until after I had the Roku. When HD on Roku first became available I tested it via HDMI to a 28" computer monitor I had. I was impressed enough with it to get a HDTV several weeks later. After a good deal of studying I discovered that many of the older HD sets support 1080i but not 720p. (Glad I waited for prices to drop and capabilities to go up before I bought one...)

[Hammdo]

I'm also a 1080i Projection TV HD person. No 720p support on the TV. Yes it is the TV, but if there is any chance that Roku can support 1080i tvs, that would be great. My 32" LCDs play great and the quality is awesome.

Needless to say, I'm not going to replace my 56" HD Projection TV (build in 2004) Panasonic anytime soon as its does DirectTV 1080i great! I have a Samsung Blu-Ray with the Samsung 'apps' on it for Netflix. It plays great on my Panasonic (I got it when Roku did not play well on the Panasonic). Streaming home videos (like I can with Roku and Roksbox) sucks as it does not support the audio AC3 spec as well as Roku does. Still, its an option for those who want 'Netflix' on those older HD TVs. I wanted to get another Roku XR HD for the Panasonic, but sometimes you have to deal with things as they are

-Don

[fortyninersfan427]

Hi all -

I recently purchased Roku HD DR. My HDTV (Vizio) is connected to Roku HD DR via HDMI cable.
Roku HD DR works great when settings are on "wide screen." When I try to use the "HD" settings on Roku,
I get a lot of static noise and snow on my TV screen.

I don't think it's the HDMI cable (since I can view movies fine in 480p under widescreen settings).
HDTV works great when it is connected to cable (or more recently) HD antenna

I have 2 different HDMI ports on my TV - tried them both out. Same result. I'm thinking maybe I just
got a faulty Roku box. I'm committed to making this work - and I want 780p. I don't wanna have to pay for
Blu Ray

[philsoft]

Hi all -

I recently purchased Roku HD DR. My HDTV (Vizio) is connected to Roku HD DR via HDMI cable.
Roku HD DR works great when settings are on "wide screen." When I try to use the "HD" settings on Roku,
I get a lot of static noise and snow on my TV screen.

I don't think it's the HDMI cable (since I can view movies fine in 480p under widescreen settings).
HDTV works great when it is connected to cable (or more recently) HD antenna

I have 2 different HDMI ports on my TV - tried them both out. Same result. I'm thinking maybe I just
got a faulty Roku box. I'm committed to making this work - and I want 780p. I don't wanna have to pay for
Blu Ray

Is it possible that there may be a firmware update for your TV? If so that is what I would try first.

[The Old Man]

wow, 10,000 posts and 1080i is too much 2 ask

This thread is the second most viewed thread on the forum. Roku Support even pinned it to the forum--thanks to them for that. There's obviously interest in this problem. The only information we get is from other posters, some with suggestions, some with frustration, and most weirdly, posts from people who are angry we're even asking for this.

I'd love to get the official word from Roku--I don't think we've ever heard from them.

[Arwen]

The hardware in the Roku, (all 3 current models as far as I know), supports 1080i.
That said, it's possible that the network side of the box is a limitation.

My opinion is that it's the up-scaling functions. I use the HDMI port to a 1080p
monitor and have set my Roku HD XR to HD mode, (720p). The Roku up-scales
almost every SD show to 720p just fine. Then my monitor upscales 720p to fill
my 1080p screen. Get some weird artifacts on occasion. Wish I could get one
thing doing all the upscaling, in one step, (480i to 1080p, 720p to 1080p).

Those with 1080i monitors / TVs that don't support 720p may want to look into
external up-scalers. Anchor Bay seems to have a decent product that seems to
take many different types of inputs, including analog, and upscales then as
needed. The suggestion is to use native inputs and let the Anchor Bay product
do all the upscaling. Their DVDO Edge does support 1080i output devices.

(Note I do not work for, or own any Anchor Bay products.)